Question Time: Did Chris Philp confuse Rwanda and Congo?
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Opposition parties have criticised policing minister Chris Philp for appearing to confuse two African countries on BBC Question Time.
An audience member from the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) asked about the governmentâs new law on deporting some asylum seekers to Rwanda.
Responding, Mr Philp appeared to ask if Rwanda and Congo were different countries.
An ally later suggested he had been posing a rhetorical question.
The governmentâs Rwanda bill became law on Thursday, and says any asylum seeker entering the UK âillegallyâ after 1 January 2022 from a safe country, could be sent on a one-way flight to Rwanda.
The audience member pointed out that there had been recent conflict between Congo and neighbouring Rwanda and a long history of violence.
He asked: âHad my family members come from Goma (a city on the DRCâs border with Rwanda) on a crossing right now, would they then be sent back to the country they are supposedly warring â Rwanda?
âDoes that make any sense to you?â
Mr Philp, MP for Croydon South, replied: âNo, I think thereâs an exclusion on people from Rwanda being sent to Rwanda.â
After the audience member objected that his parents were ânot from Rwandaâ, the minister said: âWell, I mean, Rwanda is a different country to Congo isnât it?
âItâs a different country?â
The comment caused a short outburst of laughter from some members of the debate programmeâs audience as Labourâs shadow health secretary Wes Streetingâs eyes darted around the room.
Mr Philp continued: âThere is a clause in the legislation that says if somebody would suffer, I think the phrase is âserious and irreversible harmâ by being sent somewhere, they wouldnât be sent.
âSo there is that safety mechanism built into the legislation.â
Labourâs shadow immigration minister Stephen Kinnock said the government was sending ÂŁ576m to a country they âcouldnât even pick out on a mapâ. The Liberal Democratsâ Sarah Olney said it showed this was ânot a serious governmentâ.
An ally of Mr Philp suggested the minister had been asking a rhetorical question, rather than a real one, as he tried to clarify what he had been asked.
You can watch the latest episode of Question Time, which was recorded in Tottenham, north London, here.
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