Help I Sexted My Boss: William Hanson and Jordan North on their unlikely friendship
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William Hanson and Jordan North are, by their own admission, unlikely best friends.
Hanson is an etiquette expert, who grew up thinking it was âtotally normalâ that his parents had a spare car for their dog. Jordan is a Burnley lad, whose mother used to bathe him in the kitchen sink.
But the pair hit it off when they met in 2010, and subsequently launched a comedy podcast, Help I Sexted My Boss, assisting listeners with modern day dilemmas.
That podcast is now coming to the big screen.
Hanson and Northâs live show at the London Palladium on Tuesday night will be broadcast into 400 cinemas across the UK, Ireland and European cities. Itâs thought to be the first time a British podcast has done this.
When we meet at a recording studio in central London, they are midway through rehearsals for their tour.
âIâm super nervous,â North said about the tour. âI get terrible stage fright before.â
That might seem surprising, given North is a seasoned radio presenter. But Hanson explains that in a radio studio, you canât see your listeners, whereas during a live show, they are right in front of you. North nods in agreement.
The tour sold out in just three hours. The aim of taking it into cinemas is to ensure fans â better known as G&Divas â can âstill be a part of it,â North said.
The show hasnât been lapped up at all cinemas. North feels particularly vexed that itâs not selling well in Accrington, as itâs just down the road from where he is from.
But overall, itâs been well received in places as far apart as Burnley (âno surprise,â says Hanson) and Exeter.
The pair first met at BBC Radio 5 Liveâs studio in Manchester. North was doing work experience, and Hanson had come into the studio for an interview.
They met again a few months later at a party.
North said his housemate warned him he wouldnât like Hanson âas heâs a bit poshâ. The housemate also gave Hanson a similar warning, telling him North was âa bit rough around the edgesâ.
But they found common ground, helped â they say â by a shared sense of humour.
In 2018, they launched their podcast. Both say theyâve never themselves sexted their bosses, despite the title of the podcast. âIâve always been freelance, I would have had to sext myself,â Hanson said.
But the idea behind it was to encourage listeners to share their problems, which the duo then try and offer solutions to.
They get dilemmas such as what to do if youâve inadvertently shared sex toys with family members, but also general questions of etiquette such as whether itâs acceptable to delete your ex from social media.
Today, the podcast has more than three million downloads a month.
Taking it into cinemas is an âinterestingâ step, says Joseph Evans, an analyst at media research firm Enders Analysis.
âPodcasts continue to grow, in terms of popularity, and now weâre seeing these new innovations â first you had the live streams, and now theyâre coming to cinemas too,â he told BBC News.
Evans said you can see why a cinema format could work. âPodcasters are very community oriented as a medium. So with cinemas, you get the communal experience, youâre together with fans at the same time.â
But he added: âFor many, the appeal of a live event is being in the same room as the podcasters, so we shall see if this new format works.â
Hanson and North think that having two hosts from very different backgrounds has helped them bring in a wider audience.
âA lot of podcasts, itâs mainly people that are middle class who listen to them, that live in metropolitan cities like London and Manchester,â North said. âWhat Iâm proud of with Sexted is that itâs a lot of working class people listening to it as well.â
Hanson adds: âThe two sides are laughing in a respectful way at the other.â
Both Hanson and North are also the first to laugh at their own experiences.
Hanson shares an anecdote about how, when he was younger, his parents bought a car for their dog, Dido.
His parents already had several cars, but wanted a separate one for Dido to travel in, to avoid the other cars getting messy, he explained.
âGrowing up I thought that was totally normal, and that was what everyone does, and now I realise itâs completely ridiculous.â
âAnd I thought it was totally normal to be bathed in the kitchen sink,â said North.
âIâd come in, and [my mum] would be getting my brothers ready for bed in the kitchen sink,â he said.
âWhich, when you look back nowâŠâ he trails off, with a laugh.
âGen Z are into etiquetteâ
North recently left BBC Radio 1 to become the host of Capital Radioâs breakfast show. âI canât tell you how much Iâm enjoying it,â he said. When the offer came to move, âit was too good to turn down,â he added.
Hanson, meanwhile, runs The English Manner, an etiquette training institute. In recent years, he has become a viral sensation on TikTok where he shares his etiquette tips and advice with a Gen-Z audience.
His persona is exactly the same in real life. When he accidentally spills some water on me, he apologises profusely. âOh dear, I seem to have watered your hand.â
He says etiquette used to be seen as ârules to belittle someoneâ. Whereas his approach is âjust about being nice to someone and having self respect. And I think Gen Z are actually more into that, and are more socially liberal and relaxed than previous generationsâ.
The pair say working together hasnât taken a toll on their friendship. They have also learnt a lot from each other.
âI make no secret I have learnt so much from William,â said North. âIt might be when I meet new people, how to shake their hand properly, eye contactâs really important, how to remember peopleâs names as Iâm always really terrible at them.â
Meanwhile Hanson, for his part, credits Jordan with making him more easy-going, including towards the more salacious elements of their podcast.
âIâm so much less uptight,â he said, before laughing. âI suppose that gives you a rough idea of how uptight I was in the first place.â
Help I Sexted My Boss Live will be in cinemas across the UK & Ireland, plus select European cities, on Tuesday.
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