Marianne Jean-Baptiste on Oscars buzz for playing âdifficultâ woman
Nearly three decades after being nominated for an Oscar, British actress Marianne Jean-Baptiste is back in the awards race thanks to a tremendous performance in director Mike Leighâs new drama, Hard Truths.
The 57-year-old jokes she feels âolder and widerâ (rather than wiser) this time around â a line she credits to co-star Michele Austin, who plays her on-screen sister.
But waistlines aside, her reunion with Leigh, whom she first worked with on 1996âs Secrets & Lies, has prompted some of the most positive reviews of her career.
Hard Truths centres on Pansy, a woman who is constantly grumpy and miserable, and the impact her unspoken depression has on those around her.
It would be unfair to call the film a comeback for Jean-Baptiste, because she has been working tirelessly in the intervening years. But her second collaboration with Leigh has led to renewed attention on the film awards circuit.
âItâs kind of a full circle moment, rather than a comeback,â she tells BBC News.
âItâs very interesting, because the first time, I was not aware at all that we were even in an Oscar race. Youâve got to remember, in 1996, there was still a huge independent film presence in the United States.
âAt that time, we werenât that aware of the whole Oscar thing. It was something that happened over there,â she says, gesturing far away, âwith really big stars. So it really was not on our radar.â
Having won the top prize at Cannes, it was only when Secrets & Lies played at the New York Film Festival four months later that Jean-Baptiste became more aware of the awards buzz. âI hadnât even heard of the Golden Globes at that point,â she recalls.
âWe were just talking about the film, doing loads of interviews, we were just knackered from all the plane rides, so there was a naivety to it the first time.
âNow we have the internet and itâs become more of an aggressive pursuit of those awards. The campaigning process has changed quite a lot. Or maybe it hasnât and we just werenât aware of it back then.â
Leigh and Jean-Baptiste have âkept in touch over the yearsâ, she explains â which ultimately led to their second project together.
Hard Truths has been praised for its hard-hitting but nuanced depiction of depression and complex family dynamics.
There is humour in many of the scenes as Pansy starts arguments with pretty much everyone she encounters, from her closest relatives to her dentist. The man in the car park who asks if sheâs leaving gets it with both barrels.
But there is something deeper going on. Although the word âdepressionâ isnât mentioned in the film, itâs clear Pansy is struggling.
âYeah, itâs not spoken,â Jean-Baptiste says. âAnd the interesting thing about that is the whole family, everyone that she comes into contact with, other than her sister, just sort of gets on with it.
âItâs under the surface. âOh, itâs just Pansy.â And so many people live like that, where you have somebody thatâs really difficult, and nobody says to them, âMan, what is it? Whatâs really going on?â You just sort of avoid them.â
On paper, it might sound like fun for an actor to play such a juicy, bad-tempered character. But Jean-Baptisteâs performance reveals something much more complex.
âPeople have asked if it was cathartic, the chance to just spew. But no, it wasnât like that,â she says. âI felt the very real pain, anxiety and fear. There was not a lot of enjoyment to be had in that.
âAnd also, Pansy comes from a generation where youâre taught to just get on with things. Itâs like the pre-Oprah generation, self-help â itâs before all that. You just went, âI feel rubbish, but Iâve got to do the laundry.â You get up and you get on with it.â
âRaw and realisticâ
In her review of Hard Truths, Carla Hay of Culture Mix said Jean-Baptiste âgives a fierce and complex performanceâ, describing it as âa raw and realistic portrayal of how toxic anger and untreated mental illness can affect a familyâ.
âEven at its funniest, Hard Truths finds Marianne Jean-Baptiste channelling an anger that feels excruciatingly real,â wrote Slantâs Cole Kronman.
The Hollywood Reporterâs Jon Frosch noted that Leigh âpushes the bounds of our empathy and asks us to look, really look, at someone from whom weâd surely avert our gaze if we had the misfortune of crossing her path in real lifeâ.
Leigh famously spends several months rehearsing, and crafts his script based on improvisation sessions with the actors.
âBasically, the process is to create a character from scratch,â Jean-Baptiste explains. âTheir first memory, their education, house they grew up in, family members, neighbours, where the local park was. Minute detail.â
The actors are then introduced to one another to build their charactersâ relationships. âWe do all sorts of exercises to establish the family routines and the traditions. We do improvisations based on, âWhatâs Sunday dinner like?'â
By the time shooting begins, the script is firmly in place. âNothing is ever improvised on camera,â she explains. âSo we rehearse it and rehearse it.â
Oscars record
Jean-Baptiste is speaking to BBC News the morning after the British Independent Film Awards, where she won best lead performance, one of several early accolades she has picked up.
If she is ultimately shortlisted by Hollywoodâs Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences on 17 January, Jean-Baptiste could become the first black British woman to receive two Oscar nominations for acting.
Coincidentally, Wickedâs Cynthia Erivo is also a contender for best actress â meaning she could match that record, after also being nominated in 2020.
âI guess itâs a sign of progress, and I think itâs all great,â Jean-Baptiste reflects. âItâs recognition for a job well done, I guess.â
Four black actresses from the US have previously scored two Academy nominations â Whoopi Goldberg, Angela Bassett, Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer.
Jean-Baptiste agrees strides have been made on diversity nearly a decade on from the OscarsSoWhite movement, but notes that the real issue is whether the work is available in the first place.
âI think [awards bodies] are trying. Itâs always going to come back down to opportunity, though,â she says.
âIf the films arenât being made that feature black women [or] Asian women in the lead role, then they donât even stand a chance of being nominated.
âSo we always have to come back to the opportunities in the first place, the work being made, the stories being told.â
Notably, Jean-Baptiste now lives in Los Angeles â a place many British actors have moved to for the sake of their careers.
âWell, I was being offered work out there, so it made sense actually, because in the end I left to do a job that would require me to be there for an extended amount of time,â she explains, referring to her 2000s TV police drama Without A Trace.
âBecause that show went on for seven years. Iâd been flying back and forth for the first year or two of the show, and then it was like, you know what, this is a lot. Itâs a long flight just for a weekend.â
When sheâs back in the UK, she relishes the chance to catch up on British theatre and read books on the London Underground (âYou have to drive in LA, so itâs books on tapeâ).
For now, though, her focus is on Hard Truths, which will be released in the UK on 31 January. Jean-Baptiste hopes viewers ultimately leave the film with âa bit more compassion for people, difficult peopleâ.
âNot to avoid them, necessarily, but just sort of ask your aunt whatâs going on, and if thereâs something you can do to help. Donât assume youâre going to be berated for doing it.â
Older and wider, we all begrudgingly are. But Marianne Jean-Baptiste is clearly quite a lot wiser, too.