Chappell Roan: âIâd be more successful if I wore a muzzleâ
Chappell Roan canât be stopped.
Over the last 12 months, the 26-year-old has become the buzziest star in pop. A flamboyant, flame-haired sensation, whose songs are as colourful as they are raw.
Her debut album, released to little fanfare in 2023, has just topped the UK charts for a second time. Next week, sheâs up for six Grammy awards, including best new artist. And BBC Radio 1 have named her their Sound Of 2025.
Success has been all the sweeter because her former record label refused to release many of the songs that exploded onto the charts last year.
âThey were like, âThis is not gonna work. We donât get itâ,â Roan tells Radio 1âs Jack Saunders.
Reaching popâs A-list isnât just a vindication but a revolution.
The 26-year-old is the first female pop star to achieve mainstream success as an openly queer person, rather than coming out as part of their post-fame narrative.
On a more personal level, sheâs finally done well enough to move into a house of her own, and acquire a rescue cat, named Cherub Lou.
âSheâs super tiny, her breath smells so bad, and she doesnât have a meow,â the singer dotes.
If kitten ownership is a benefit of fame, Roan has bristled at the downsides.
She has spoken out against abusive fans, calling out âcreepy behaviourâ from people who harass her in airport queues and âstalkâ her parentsâ home. Last September, she went viral for cussing a photographer whoâd been shouting abuse at stars on the red carpet of the MTV Awards.
âI was looking around, and I was like, âThis is what people are OK with all the time? And Iâm supposed to act normal? This is not normal. This is crazyâ,â she recalls.
The incident made headlines. British tabloids called her outburst the âtantrumâ of a âspoiled divaâ.
But Roan is unapologetic.
âIâve been responding that way to disrespect my whole life â but now there are cameras on me, and I also happen to be a pop star, and those things donât match. Itâs like oil and water.â
Roan says musicians are trained to be obedient. Standing up for yourself is portrayed as whining or ingratitude, and rejecting convention comes at a cost.
âI think, actually, Iâd be more successful if I was OK wearing a muzzle,â she laughs.
âIf I were to override more of my basic instincts, where my heart is going, âStop, stop, stop, youâre not OKâ, I would be bigger.
âI would be way bigger⊠And I would still be on tour right now.â
Indeed, Roan rejected the pressure of extending her 2024 tour to protect her physical and mental health. She credits that resolve to her late grandfather.
âThereâs something he said that I think about in every move I make with my career. There are always options.â
âSo when someone says, âDo this concert because youâll never get offered that much money ever againâ, itâs like, who cares?
âIf I donât feel like doing this right now, there are always options. There is not a scarcity of opportunity. I think about that all the time.â
As fans will know by now, Roan was born Kayleigh Rose Amstutz and raised in the Bible Belt town of Willard, Missouri.
The oldest of four children, she aspired to be an actress â but, for a long time, it seemed her future would be in sport. She ran at state-competition level, and almost went to college for cross-country.
Then she entered a singing contest at the age of 13 and won. Before long, sheâd written her first song, about a crush on a Mormon boy who wasnât allowed to date outside his faith.
She took her stage name as a tribute to her grandfather Dennis K Chappell and his favourite song, a Western ballad called The Strawberry Roan.
âHe was very funny and very smart,â she recalls. âAnd I donât think he ever questioned my ability.
âA lot of people were like, âYou should go completely countryâ, or, âYou should try Christian musicâ. And he never told me to do anything.
âHe was the only person that was like, âYou donât need a plan B. Just do itâ.â
Drag queen heaven
Eventually, one of her compositions, a gothic ballad called Die Young, caught the attention of Atlantic Records, which signed her at the age of just 17.
Moving to LA, she recorded and released her first EP, School Nights, in 2017. It was a solid but unremarkable affair, steeped in the sounds of Lana Del Rey and Lorde.
Roan only found a sound of her own when a group of gay friends took her to a drag bar.
âI walked into that club in West Hollywood and it was like heaven,â she told the BBC last year. âIt was amazing to see all these people who were happy and confident in their bodies.
âAnd the go-go dancers! I was enthralled. I couldnât stop watching them. I was like, âI have to do thatâ.â
She didnât become a dancer, but she did write a song imagining what it would be like to be one and how her mother would react. Roan called it Pink Pony Club after a strip bar in her home town.
âThat song changed everything,â she says. âIt put me in a new category.
âI never thought I could actually be a âpop star girlâ and Pink Pony forced me into that.â
Her label disagreed. They refused to release Pink Pony Club for two years. Shortly after they relented, Roan was dropped in a round of pandemic-era cost-cutting.
Bruised but not broken, she went back home and spent the next year serving coffee in a drive-through doughnut shop.
âIt absolutely had a positive impact on me,â she says. âYou have the knowledge of what itâs like to clean a public restroom. Thatâs very important.â
The period was transformational in other ways. She saved her earnings, had her heart broken by a person âwith pale blue eyesâ, moved back to Los Angeles, and gave herself a year to make it.
It might have taken a little longer than that, but she hit the ground running.
During her exile, Roan had stayed in touch with her Pink Pony Club co-writer, Daniel Nigro.
He was also working with another up-and-coming singer called Olivia Rodrigo and, when her career took off, Roan got a courtside seat, supporting Rodrigo on tour and providing backing vocals on her second album, Guts.
More importantly, Nigro used the momentum to sign Roan to his own record label and ensure the release of her debut album in September 2023.
At first, it seemed like Roanâs original label had been right. Sales were disappointing and audiences were slow to catch on because her in-your-face queer anthems were out of step with the trend for whispery, confessional pop.
But those songs came to life on stage. Big, fun and designed for audience participation, theyâre taken to new heights by Roanâs powerhouse voice and flamboyant stage persona.
âA drag queen does not get on stage to calm people down,â she says. âA drag queen does not say things to flatter people. A queen makes you blush, you know what I mean? Expect the same energy at my show.â
Sure enough, it was a live-streamed appearance at last yearâs Coachella Festival that pushed her into the upper echelons of pop.
Dressed in a PVC crop top that declared âEat Meâ, she played the packed Gobi tent like a headliner, strutting purposefully across the stage and coaching the audience in the campy choreography for Hot To Go.
Then she stared directly into the camera and dedicated a song to her ex.
âBitch I know youâre watching⊠and all those horrible things happening to you are karma.â
The clip went viral and, before long, her career did, too.
By the summer, all of her shows had been upgraded. Festivals kept having to move her to bigger stages. When she played Lollapalooza in August, she drew the eventâs biggest ever daytime crowd.
âIt just takes a decade,â she says. âThatâs what I tell everyone. âIf youâre OK with it taking 10 years, then youâre goodâ.â
As fans discovered her debut album, Roan also released a standalone single â a sarcastic slice of synth-pop called Good Luck Babe, which became her breakout hit.
âI donât even know if Iâve ever said this in an interview, but it was originally called Good Luck, Jane,â she reveals.
âI wanted it to be about me falling in love with my best friend, and then her being like, âHa ha ha, I donât like you back, I like boys.â
âAnd it was like, âOK, well, good luck with that, Janeâ.â
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A masterclass in pop storytelling, Good Luck Babe has a proper three-act structure, with a killer pay-off in the middle eight and a chorus you just canât shake.
Still, Roan was shocked by its success.
âI just threw it out, like, I donât know what this is going to do â and it carried the whole year!â
The question, of course, is what the star does next, now that sheâs the Sound of 2025.
Sheâs already previewed two new songs, The Subway and The Giver, in concert â but all she will reveal about a second album is that sheâs âmore reluctant to be sad or darkâ.
âIt feels so good to party,â she explains.
Looking back at the last 12 months, sheâs philosophical about what it means to be popâs hottest new commodity.
âA lot of people think fame is the pinnacle of success, because what more could you possibly want than adoration?â
Roan does admit that the admiration of strangers is more âaddictiveâ than sheâd expected.
âLike, I understand why Iâm so scared to lose this feeling.
âItâs so scary to think that one day people will not care about you the same way as they do right now â and I think [that idea] lives in womenâs brains a lot different than menâs.â
Ultimately, she decides, success and failure are âout of my controlâ. Instead, she wants to make good choices.
âIf I can look back and say, âI did not crumble under the weight of expectation, and I did not stand for being abused or blackmailedâ, [then] at least I stayed true to my heart,â she says.
âLike I said before, there are always options.â
Chappell Roan was named BBC Radio 1âs Sound Of 2025, by a panel of more than 180 musicians, critics and music industry experts.
The top five, in order, were:
- 1) Chappell Roan
- 2) Ezra Collective
- 3) Barry Canât Swim
- 4) Myles Smith
- 5) English Teacher